Top 50 of 2009
The TOC Scoreboard has had a great first semester and we’re happy to announce the top fifty teams from the first semester of the 2009-2010 debate season. All rankings are based on the National Debate Coaches Association’s Baker Award standings.
- Whitney Young (IL) – Kevin Hirn & Misael Gonzalez
- Kinkaid School (TX) – Nikhil Bontha & Layne Kirshon
- Westminster Schools (GA) – Ellis Allen & Daniel Taylor
- Woodward Academy (GA) – Matthew Pesce & Max Plithides
- Bronx Science (NY) – Andrew Markoff & Zack Elias
- Glenbrook South (IL) – Richard Day & Will Thibeau
- McDonogh (MD) – Alex Resar & Patrick Butler
- Georgetown Day (DC) – Rebecca Rothfield & Isaac Stanley-Becker
- Chattahoochee (GA) – Kaavya Ramesh & Megan Cambre
- Westlake (TX) – David Mullins & John Baker
- Oak Park River Forest (IL) – James Hanley & John Hazinski
- Damien (CA) – Reid Ehlrich Quinn & Pablo Gannon
- Westminster (GA) – Ayush Dayal & Julia Marshall
- Edina (MN) – Trevor Aufderheide & Nick Khatri
- Glenbrook North (IL) – Flynn Makuch & Alex Pappas
- Montgomery Bell (TN) – Herschel Mehta & Campbell Haynes
- Rowland Hall St. Marks (UT) – Mario Feola & Andrew Arsht
- Carrollton School of Sacred Heart (FL) – Anna Dimitrijevic & Helen Gomez
- New Trier (IL) – Dylan Carpenter & Ira Slmoski-Pritz
- Pembroke Hill (MO) – Thomas Hodgman & Peter Vale
- Pembroke Hill (MO) – Brad Bolman & Lewis Sharp
- Lexington(MA) – Tyler Engler & Arjun Vellayappan
- Glenbrook South (IL) – Samantha Varney & Phil Sailer
- Bishop Guertin (NH) – Katie DiTullio & Christian Steckler
- Dallas Jesuit (TX) – Ryan Gorman & Joel Diamond
- Wayzata (MN) – Krishnan Ramanujan & Dru Svoboda
- Greenhil (TX) – Arnav Kejriwal & Kush Patel
- St. Paul Central (MN) – Laura Johnson & Steve Quam
- St. Marks (TX) – Rishee Batra & Alex Miles
- Mountain Brook (AL) – Kevin Jiang & Lee Quinn
- Glenbrook North (IL) – Alexis Shklar & Vinay Sridharan
- Westminster (GA) – Will Morgan & Drew Cutshaw
- Beacon (NY) – Damiyr Davis & Miguel Feliciano
- Cathedral Prep (PA) – Colin McElhinny & Kevin Ward
- Glenbrook South (IL) – Jack McLeod & John Zhao
- College Prep (CA) – Vinay Pai & Tatsuro Yamamura
- Grapevine (TX) – Jacob Quinn & Amy Schade
- Homewood Flossmoor (IL) – Donald Grasse & Astead Herndon
- Edgemont (NY) – Benjamin Chang & Nikhil Jayawickrama
- Chattahoochee (GA) – Mustafa Inamullah & Maggie Davis
- Dallas Jesuit (TX) – Carson Young & Sean McCormick
- Chattahoochee (GA) – Jeff Zhang & Matt Rosenthal
- College Prep (CA) – Chloe Coughlin-Schulte & Justin Mardjuki
- Damien (CA) – Alex Velto & Nadeem Farooqi
- Highland Park (TX) – Collin Poirot & Rhett Young
- Lexington (MA) – Amrit Kanesa-Thasan & Ayan Sanyal
- Eden Prairie (MN) – Brett Beutell & Tanay Mehta
- Meadows (NV) – Spencer Silbey & Jess Mitchell
- Georgetown Day School (DC) – Ben Levy & Joe Krakoff
- Baltimore City College (MD) – William Stokes & Nicholas Vail
Numbers 23 and 26 on the list are the same team
Thanks – And I’ve fixed it.
Can you post the top 50 of 2009, using only the top 5 tournaments for each team?
Teams that have zero bids are ranked within the top 25…this list is rewards people for going to schools with a large travel budget instead of actually winning elim rounds. That’s not an accurate description of the “Top 50…” even if it might become more accurate as you approach the top 5/10, you should put out a list of such a large number of teams unless you’re willing to rank them in an precise fashion.
I will defend the Bishop Guertin’s, Glenbrook South SV’s, Homewood Flossmoor GH’s, and any other “no-bid” teams in the top 50. I’m pretty sure that Bishop Guertin DS has one of the highest totals of bid rounds this year. If I’m not mistaken, they are at 7 bid rounds. Although they have zero bids — they still have reached those bid rounds, unlike most national teams. So yes, they’re just as good and if not better than some of these other teams who may have only won 1 lucky bid round somewhere. The same goes for GBS and HoFlo.
The problem with your logic is assuming that a team who travels to 1 tournament and wins it, should be automatically ranked over a team who has traveled to 5-7 tournamnets and reached quarters at every tournament… this is not true. I would argue that the team that has attended those tournaments could probably beat that random team who’s been to one place mainly because of experience and things they’ve learned on the circuit thus far.
Additionally, I think that you should not always post as “Anonymous” or even your pen name “PacRankings.” Man up and reveal your name – because right now you just sound like a bitter high school student who’s jealous because your name isn’t on the list.
1 last thing – Bishop Guertin and GBS would still be in the top 30-35 I think if we only counted their top five tournaments.
Two things –
1 – pacrankings – To ask the same question in every available channel (when we have a policy about such things) is rude and time consuming.
2 – I’m with Jeff – Your logic is flawed here. To follow your logic would be akin to throwing out most methodology of running even a basic tournament and reward flukes.
3 – Anonymous comments are now banned.
is the list going to be updtaed post mba?